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- Subject: Re: [ramanuja] Re: Reg. Gayathri Mantram and ISKCON
- From: vimalkumar ranganathan <panardasan@xxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 08:52:59 -0800 (PST)
- List-id: <ramanuja.yahoogroups.com>
SrI:
Dear Sri Ranjan Swamin,
Thanks for your kind mail. I was not trying to be judgemental in my earlier mail, I just wanted to point out some of the obvious points of strangeness, that is all. I hold the ISKCON devotees in the highest esteem, and personally know many of their sannyasis.
Well, having supported their view and citing their "History", kindly educate adiyEn on the following:
1) their tradition of giving Brahmana Initiation to Women - where does it come from? What is the history? and
what is the vEdic pramAna? - Is it consistent with the sAstrAs?
2) Their allowing women to temples and even do deity worship during untoward days - again, what is the history, what is the pramAnA?
The philosophy that they preach - being a brAhmAnA is not the goal, but becoming a vaishnava is. Becoming a vaishnava supercedes the varna system, according to GV (even SV, for that matter). Then why should they give brahmana initiation to everyone? Again, I don't mean to be casteist here. Becoming a brahmana is not a caste-related theory btw, atleast in the modern day. We have had excellent devotees in our sampradaya who didn't belong to the brahmana caste, right from many of the AzhwArs to excellent AchAryAs like vilAnchOlaip piLLai. None of them desired to become brahmanas - they just glorified the Lord and his devotees, that is all.
As the days progress, synthesis of religion and
liberal ideologies - I don't know if it is going to have a happy ending or not.
-adiyEn dAsan,
Kidambi Soundararajan.
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