Dear Sriman Raghavan,
Then I go by your other mails. It is not swAtantryam in its real sense but
ignorance or thinking that we are swatantram. This kind of thought that we are
indepenent is called ahankAram in pUrvAchArya texts. Lord will allow our acts
to be accordingly, with full control on them. He will give us bhakti whenever
He wishes and not by mechanically browsing vEdas etc., as explained by krshNa
and interpreted by rAmAnuja.
Nice to see your analysis.
Dasan
Vishnu
Vijaya Raghavan <svrvan@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Swamin,
Swtantryam will aim for paratantryam only if emperuman's swatantryam decides so.
Dasan/raghvan
Vishnu wrote:
--- In ramanuja@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx, rajan s wrote:
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> Dear All
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> The free will or the swatantriam of the soul is thus surrendered as
sung by the Azhwar.
Dear Sriman Soundararajan,
To be very frank, I do not know whether we have swAtantryam or
pAratantryam except for going by some concepts.
Now I will ask you one question. The free will or swAtantyram is shed
out of our free will or not?
Dasan
Vishnu
> The paratantriam is a state of mind.
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Azhwar Emberumanar Jeeyar thiruvadigale sharanam.
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> Lakshmi Narasimhan wrote:
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> Well,
> We have independence(swa). Using that independence(swa), if we give
> up that very independence then that is pAratantryam(dependencde).
> adiyen,
> rAmAnuja dAsan
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